BETCHES 'Let Me Finish': Schoolgirl Role Play Fantasy or Fetish?

On the "Is Role Play His Fantasy Or A Fetish?" episode of the Betches Let Me Finish podcast, Taylor read the last listener email of 2020, which was from a listener who had sex, repeatedly, with "this guy" whom had a schoolgirl role play fantasy or schoolgirl fetish:

Taylor: “Hey sluts: Love the show. I need help. I’m seeing this guy, and he’s really into role play. The first few times we hooked up, he kept asking me if I’d been a bad girl. And I played along. I could tell he was working up the courage to take it a step further; so, the next time we were hooking up and he asked me if I’d been bad, I was like, ‘Yeah, I’ve been a bad girl. Do you wanna punish me?’ And he’s like, ‘Well, what did you do wrong? Were you caught skipping class?'"

Abby (co-host): “Oh, he wants to do, like, principal?”

Interestingly, the guy's fantasy or fetish is that he's a private school headmaster like Headmaster Steve Muller in Cruel Intentions 2 - not a public school principal. Consequently, his fantasy or fetish includes private schoolgirl uniforms:

Taylor: “It’s at this point that I realize that he’s doing a whole role playing thing. And he wants me to pretend to be a naughty schoolgirl. I’ve never done this before; so, I was a little caught off guard. Long story short, he told me how he was the headmaster and he wanted to spank me for being so bad. Not gonna lie. It was pretty hot. My ass was so red. Fast forward to today and let’s just say this has turned into a whole thing. It’s like, everytime we have sex, it gets freakier and freakier. For the holidays he’s talked about getting me a Catholic schoolgirl uniform, and I feel like there’s no turning back.” 

Abby: “Wow.”

However, the emailer wanted some advice, because, although she liked, "[...] the role play [...] it's starting to feel a little repetitive." 

Before giving the emailer some advice, Abby was non-judgmental, “I mean, if this is what turns him on - that’s what turns him on [...] And she said it was hot.” And Sean, the Senior Director of Podcasts, and Abby opined that the guy's schoolgirl fantasy slash fetish was hot.

Sean: “I mean, I get it. It’s kinda hot.”

Abby: “Yeah, it’s hot. It’s hot.”

After giving some alternative role playing suggestions (e.g., Taskrabbit vs. Tasker), Taylor encouraged the emailer to "just lean into the role", Abby suggested the emailer "get creative girl", and Abby, Taylor and Sean suggested some headmaster\schoolgirl scenarios. 

Abby: “[...] your homework is always wrong. You always cheated. You are an F student.”

Taylor: “Honestly, just lean into the role. We can have character development here.”

Abby: “Honestly, like, get creative girl. We can create a backstory.”

Taylor: “What did you do this time?”

Abby: “What if you’re her [i.e., the schoolgirl] all the time now. He’s like, ‘Hey, wanna go to the movies?’ And you're like, ‘Oh, because I’ve been a good student?’”

Sean: “Hey, I’m gonna go to the grocery store. Do you need anything? Like, ‘I need you to get me a ruler ‘cause I lost mine, and I want you to spank me with it.’”

I have to say, despite the plethora of examples of the allure of schoolgirls in pop culture (e.g., Joshua Gaylor's Hummingbirds [novel], Rachel Weiner's Horse Girls [play], Netflix's Baby  (2019) [series], Stacey Dooley's Young Sex for Sale in Japan (2017) [documentary]), I have to say that I was surprised that Abby and Sean (openly) shared that the schoolgirl fantasy slash fetish was hot. 

FORBES: LiveStreaming Stripping Teens on TikTok

Alexandra S. Levine posted on Forbes "How TikTok Live Became ‘A Strip Club Filled With 15-Year-Olds’" (Apr 27, 2022) with the intro\kicker: "Livestreams on the social media app are a popular place for men to lurk and for young girls — enticed by money and gifts — to perform sexually suggestive acts.

The piece started with MJ, a 14-year-old blond nymphet in a bralette with a Cash App account, who gets her bills paid by livestreaming: "[...] acts that appear to toe the line of child pornography" for ≈ 2,000 men on TikTok.

“You’re paying my bills,” MJ told the audience, running a finger over her mouth.

“$35 for a flash,” one viewer responded. Another asked how much to send to her Cash App.

As she posed and pursed her lips, her long blonde hair draped over her tight black bralette, some asked MJ to show them her feet.

“I’m 68 and you owe me one,” one attendee told her as more requests piled on.

These exchanges did not take place between adults at a nightclub; they took place on TikTok Live, where MJ, who said she was 14 years old, was broadcasting with friends to 2,000 strangers on a recent Saturday night.

Livestreams on the social media app are a popular place for men to lurk and for young girls — enticed by money and gifts — to perform sexually suggestive acts.

Like MJ, other nubile nymphets are rewarded for their provocative performances with: "[...] TikTok gifts, which can be redeemed for money, or off-platform payments to Venmo, PayPal or Cash App accounts that users list in their TikTok profiles."

Leah Plunkett, an assistant dean at Harvard Law School, opined that nymphets performing "activities" for adults for money on TikTok is the digital equivalent of teen strip clubs:

It’s “the digital equivalent of going down the street to a strip club filled with 15-year-olds,” says Leah Plunkett, an assistant dean at Harvard Law School and faculty associate at Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society, focused on youth and media. Imagine a local joint putting a bunch of minors on a stage before a live adult audience that is actively giving them money to perform whatever G, PG or PG-13 activities they request, she said.

Levine listed some "demands" (e.g., teen girl-on-girl kissing and wrestling), that nymphets are asked to do in exchange for being "showered with virtual [TikTok] gifts":

Some of the demands are explicit — like asking girls to kiss each other, spread their legs or flash the camera [...] Commenters say “outfit check” to get a complete look at a girl’s body; “pedicure check” to see their feet; “there’s a spider on your wall” to get girls to turn around and show their rears; and “play rock-paper-scissors” to encourage girls to flirt-fight or wrestle with each other. Phrases like “put your arms up” or “touch the ceiling” are often directed at girls in crop tops so viewers can see their breasts and stomachs. And many simply coax girls to show their tongues and belly buttons or do handstands and splits. In return, the girls are showered with virtual gifts, like flowers, hearts, ice cream cones and lollipops, that can be converted to cash.

Under the subheading "Teenage quid pro quo", Levine profiled Ella, another livestreaming TikTok teen, whom, after turning down the lights, creatively stripped for "digital gifts" in front of ≈ 3,000 viewers:

Ella turned the lights down low and propped the phone up in front of her body — just beneath her chin, so her face was hidden — and picked up a pair of scissors.

Very slowly, as Ariana Grande played and nearly 3,000 people looked on, she began snipping pieces of her white t-shirt. Strip by strip, hole by hole, with every cut revealing more of Ella’s chest and black bra, commenters clamored for more and digital gifts poured in — a steady stream of roses, fire, whipped coffee and other cartoonish prizes.

17-year-old Madison shared with Forbes that some her teen friends earned almost $1,000 per month lustfully livestreaming week after week on TikTok and that they cunningly avoid TikTok's  age restrictions by simply lying about their ages:

Madison, a 17-year-old from South Carolina, told Forbes that some of her underage friends had been earning $200 a week off the gifts they’d racked up in their TikTok livestreams. Although she can’t receive Live gifts yet because she signed up using her correct age [...]

Interestingly, we learned from Levine's piece that, in addition to lying about their ages, some teens suggestively put links to their money apps in their profiles (e.g., Venmo, PayPal or Cash App). TikTok isn't the only app with stripping nymphets: "Snap, Instagram and YouTube — other popular destinations for children and teens — have also been criticized for exposing underage users to dangerous or unhealthy situations." And apparently, there are a lot of sexually suggestive teen TikToks as ≈ 43 million videos were removed from the platform: "[...] for policy violations related to minor safety." To quote Mare of Mare of Easttown said, "Teenage girls are fucking sneaky"

Confusingly, Plunkett, of Harvard, added: “That is sexual exploitation. But that's exactly what TikTok is doing here," which raises some (rhetorical) questions. Is it sexual exploitation when teens post sexaully suggestive content (e.g., TikTok teens twerking in thongs) for free but for likes and followers? And what about 18-year-old teens? Does it magically cease to be sexaul exploitation when the teens turn 18 and create OnlyFans account (e.g., Bhad Bhabie and Sami Sheen)? And why did Plunkett remove the stripping teens and leering men from the equation by saying "that's exactly what TikTok is doing here"?

Lastly, we would imagine that orthodox Jews and Muslims would agree that "lurking" men should avoid paying sex workers - of any age. And women, no matter the age, should avoid stripping for Brandy Melville perks, flashing for TikTok gifts or creating OnlyFans accounts.

CATHERINE CALLED BIRDY: Lena Dunham, Teen Brides, and Incest Fantasies

In Karen Cushman’s Newbery Honor Book Catherine Called Birdy, Rollo, a lord, country knight, and the father of Catherine called Birdy, not only has a habit of spanking Birdy, with his hand, on her 13-year-old “rump”, but he intended to sell her to a wealthy man. Consequently, Rollo asked his daughter the following questions:

"Exactly how old are you, daughter?"
"Have you all your teeth?"
"Is your breath sweet or foul?"
"Are you a good eater?"
"What color is your hair when it is clean?"

Interestingly, despite being 13, Birdy, who described herself as “sun-browned and gray-eyed” with fountains that went from the size of walnuts to apples within a year, wrote that she was “near grown”.

Birdy’s first suitor was Master Lack-Wit “of middle years and fashionably pale”. Of Master Lack-Wit, Rollo proclaimed to his wife: “The man stinks of gold. If he will have her and pay well for the privilege, your daughter will be a wife.” However, after Birdy rubbed her nose red, blacked out her front teeth with soot, and “dressed” her hair with mouse bones, Birdy’s first suitor “left without a betrothal.”

Despite using similar tactics to dissuade a number of subsequent potential much older suitors, Birdy shared that she and Aelis, Birdy’s best friend: “[...] flirted with the guards and arranged to meet them later in a chamber [...]” and Birdy was in love with Uncle George. That’s correct. Her uncle, whom she described as tall, fair, funny, and handsome with green eyes that are “[...] alive and change colors in the sun [...]”

And of her uncle, Birdy wrote: “He makes me confused. My cheeks glow, my heart flutters like a hawk moth, and my dreams grow soft and swoony.”

Uncle George even almost killed his niece - with a wink. “[...] my uncle George winked at me and made all the uproar worth it. My heart almost stopped.”

Consequently, it was painful for Birdy to see Uncle George on a walk with Aelis. “Seeing them gives me pain in my liver.” And once Birdy learned that Aelis, “the uncle thief”, and uncle George were in love and planned to marry, due to a “jealous evil” in her heart, Birdy did everything she could to prevent the marriage from happening. She even conspired: “[...] to make a spell to curse them [...]”

“It appears that the curse has worked.” Because Aelis was: “[...] sold at auction to the highest bidder like a horse at a horse fair, but [Birdy wrote] I am gladdened to have my uncle George back.” (Despite being sold, Aelis confessed that she will love uncle George “until she dies”.)

But after Birdy discovered that uncle George was to wed, “Ethelfritha, the very rich widow of a salt merchant [...]”, Birdy wrote, “And he is still not mine [...]”

Thus, it’s worth repeating that, despite using misleading tactics to dissuade her older suitors, Birdy was not, by default, against age-gap marriages, but the problem was that none of the men could “compare with [uncle] George”.

Interestingly, Robert, Birdy’s older brother, married the 12-year-old “little heiress of Foxbridge” after it was discovered that she was pregnant. Birdy wrote: “Robert promised not to bed with her while she was of such a tender age, but [...]”

In the end, Birdy agreed to marry Murgaw, the “Shaggy Beard” lord of Lithgow, whom she referred to, among other things, as an “odious old man”, but before they could marry, Shaggy Beard was “killed in a brawl over a tavern maid.”

Interestingly, per Amazon, the book is for reading ages 10+ ‏and for grade levels ‎ 5 - 7.

Approximately, two minutes into Lena Dunham’s adaption of Catherine Called Birdy (2022), we learned that Birdy is 14, but we also see the second difference between the book, which is that in the book, it was Rollo, Birdy’s father, whom wanted to sell Birdy, but in the film, Finneas the Steward, a Black man, introduced the idea to Birdy’s father. #smh

In the book, Aelis’ age wasn’t clear, but in the film we learned that she was 16 and the “prettiest girl in the shire”. Consequently, Lord Sidebottom, Aelis’ 81-year-old father, shared: “We have already had five or six marriage proposals, all of them serious inquiries [...] I care if they can pay for my daughter in gold brick.” (FYI, Lady Sidebottom, Aelis’ step-mother, was 25.)

Later Lord Sidebottom proclaimed, "My daughter is a virgin, confirmed by exam, and can command more than twice [...]” Birdy inquired, “They pay more for virgins?”

Unsurprisingly to us, in the film, Dunham took Birdy’s attraction to her uncle George steps further. For example, we learned from the film that: 

Uncle George was 28-years-old and “SO. HANDSOME.” 

In the film, Birdy looked upon her uncle lovingly - not platonically. 

Morwenn, Birdy’s maid, teased Birdy about Birdy’s obvious crush on her uncle. 

In one scene, Birdy wrestled with uncle George to the lyrics “My boyfriend's back and you're gonna be in trouble”.

Birdy described uncle George as “beautiful” to Aelis, and Birdy shared with Aelis that she wanted to marry her uncle: “If I were to marry, Aelis [...] then I shall choose him [i.e., uncle George]” “If only he were my cousin and not my uncle. [However] [t]rue love can prevail.” 

Birdy and Shaggy Beard

And just like in the book, 28-year-old uncle George had an affair with 16-year-old Aelis. Consequently, after Birdy saw her uncle kissing her best friend, the following conversation took place between the two nymphets:

Aelis: “But I have done nothing wrong.”

Birdy: "Except for stealing the man I love with all my heart. Behind my back - no less. To me, you are a deceitful coward.”

But just like in the book, Aelis and uncle George married others, but Birdy was still unhappy. “My heart has been shaved and boiled like a parsnip. George is to be married. George is to be married.”

After Birdy visited uncle George and his new wife, Birdy asked her uncle, “Uncle George? Will you tuck me in? [...] I want you to tell me a story.” And Birdy subsequently asked her uncle, “Do you love me?” Uncle George, “Desperately.” Shockingly, that conversation was followed by lyrics from Misty Miller’s romantic song “Fade into You”: “Fade into you\Strange you never knew.”

Birdy and Shaggy Beard

A bit out of character for Lena Dunham, who is approaching Woody Allen in the amount of age-gap content, in an apparent attempt at political correctness, Dunham, not only made Birdy’s mother go against her Birdy’s age-gap marriage proposals, but instead of Shaggy Beard dying in a fight over a maid, Birdy’s age-gap marriage didn’t happen, because lord Rollo changed his mind. 

Lastly, Birdy reminded us of 17-year-old Erin of Mare of Easttown whom had an affair with her uncle. And we were reminded of Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen of House of the Dragon whom, after having an affair with her uncle in her teens, she went on to marry her uncle in later years. Consequently, Cosmopolitan posted: "Now That 'House of Dragon' is Over, I'll Say It: Incest Fantasies are Hot". Wait, is uncle becoming the new daddy? Let's pray not!

Famous Age-Gap Couple: Jerry Falwell Jr. (18) & Becki (13)

Jerry Falwell Jr. (18) & Becki Tilley (13)

Per Heavy's post "Becki Tilley, Jerry Falwell Jr.’s Wife: 5 Fast Facts":

According to a passage from the book Falwell Inc.: Inside a Religious, Political, Educational, and Business Empire by Dirk Smillie, Jerry Falwell Jr. “met his wife, the former Becki Tilley, an attractive brunette, when she was 13.”

And in Hulu's documentary God Forbid: The Sex Scandal That Brought Down a Dynasty (2022), Falwell Jr. confirmed that Becki was a nymphet when they met :

Panelist: "How old was Becki when you guys first met?"

Becki: "We don't need to go into that story."

Falwell Jr.: "She was 13, and I was 18 when I met her."

Allegedly, Becki and Falwell Jr. didn't start (openly) dating until Becki was an 18-year-old freshman at Liberty University, and Falwell was a second year law school student at the University of Virginia. (Unsurprisingly, the age-of-consent in Virginia is 18.)

Falwell Jr. & (Former) Student

If you recall, Falwell Jr. is the son of, the now deceased, Jerry Falwell Sr - the televangelist and founder of Liberty University. Scandalously, Falwell Jr. was the president of Liberty University until he was forced to resign in 2020 after a cuckolding sex scandal involving Falwell Jr., Becki, and Giancarlo Granda - a Fontainebleau Hotel pool boy. 

Interestingly, as it more closely relates to this blog, Granda shared in God Forbid, "Jerry [Falwell Jr.] texted me a picture of a former student exposing herself at his private property."

We've covered a number of age gap affairs between students and teachers, students and principals, and students and coaches, but we've never covered an age-gap affair between a student and a college president!

From DAVE to CHUCKY: Streaming Teen Sex and Drugs in Pop Culture

I related in The Allure of Nymphets from Neil Postman's The Disappearance of Childhood that as recent as two hundred years ago, the concept of childhood did not exist and that it originated during the Renaissance when the printing press was invented. 

Postman purported that the disappearance of literacy, education, and shame that occurred during the Dark and Middle ages in Europe lead to the disappearance of childhood and with little literacy in the Middle Ages, what we consider today to be childhood ended at age seven, which was when most humans had a command over speech and was considered an adult. 

There were schools in the Middle Ages, but instead of teaching reading and writing, the students underwent “on-the-job-training” in classrooms with other students whose ages ranged from 10 to adults of all ages. Even at 10-years-old, the students lived away from their parents in what could be described as dorms.  Consequently, since there was no social distinction between “children” and adults, the “children” were exposed to everything. 

However, the invention of the printing press initiated the distinction between children and adults and the bridge from childhood to adulthood was only crossed by learning how to read. As a result, a new form of schooling was required. Children were no longer placed in mixed-aged classrooms to learn a trade. Children were placed in classes with other children close to their own ages and taught a curriculum that emphasized literacy. Sound familiar? 

Just like Postman, Richard Farson’s research in Birthrights lead him to the conclusion that "children" were invented in the 16th century in Europe during the Reformation and Renaissance periods, which was when children were no longer thought of as little people but as fragile potential adults who needed to be protected and educated. However, it still took another two-hundred years before “children” began to be separated by age in school. Farson wrote that prior to the seventeenth century, children were not considered innocent, were not segregated, and were not prevented from participating in adult conversations where salacious topics like sex were discussed. There were no children’s stories or books, and it was common for girls to get married at the age of thirteen. 

However, technology, specifically the Internet accessed via smartphones, has re-exposed "children" to everything (e.g., pornography). For example, in "Porn Before Puberty?", an ABC News feature, Winnifred Bonjean Alpart shared that when she was in the eighth grade in Manhattan: "[..] boys mostly, were watching porn during school [...] during independent reading, they would do that."

But what inspired us to post this post was the "Hypospadias" (s01e03) episode of Dave where  two nymphets encouraged a young Dave to "feel up" there fountains. Mallory Parker even informed Dave, "You can go under the bra," which was before Kayla Waters informed Dave, "Now we wanna feel you up." However, due to his hypospadias, Dave declined to let the nymphets feel his penis. 

And Dave reminded us of a number of other mainstream shows that blurred the line between "children" and adult content. For example, on the "First Day" (s01e01) episode of PEN15, Maya informed Anna that, "[...] Heather gave a handjob to both Brandt and Dustin L. this summer." Anna, "That ho bag." Maya, "Such a slut. Also, I heard that Connie M. grew double-ds last night at camp." Interestingly, Connie, a middle-school nymphet, was shown with  swigging double-ds.

On the "September" (s02e01) episode of Better Things, after being introduced to Arturo, 16-year-old Max's 32-year-old boyfriend, during a game of Truth or Dare, the viewers witnessed Duke, Max's pre-teen sister, dare a nymphet, "Put four Monopoly pieces in your vagina." She did!

On the "Winter Kills" (s10e6) episode of American Horror Story, Alma, a nymphet with a thirst for men's blood, was informed that a shirtless "Hustler" had been picked up for her from a donut shop in Santa Monica. Interestingly, the Hustler was of the impression that he was supposed to have sex with the pre-teen Alma.

In addition to Alma, who killed her father on American Horror Story, there have been a spat of recent shows and films that depict "children" committing murders and/or being murdered (e.g., Halloween Ends (2022), but although we've read a number or YA novels (e.g., Gossip Girl) that depict teens doing drugs, we were shocked to see Lexy Cross, a middle-school student on Chucky, snort cocaine and crushed Clonazepam pills. For example, on the "Halloween II" (s02e01) episode of Chucky, after Lexy made out with another teen, she snorted a bump. 

In the end, we know that art imitates life and vice versa; thus, it should come as no surprise that Connie got double-ds over summer when the American Society of Plastic Surgeons reported that in 2020 (i.e., during COVID!) over three thousand nymphets, between the ages of 13 and 19, had breast augmentations (i.e., teen boob jobs). And previously, we wrote about Laura Sessions Stepp's Washington Post post "Parents Are Alarmed by an Unsettling New Fad in Middle Schools: Oral Sex" (July 8, 1999) and the New York Post post about the teen masturbation and porn literacy classes being taught at some Manhattan prep schools.