From the NY TIMES to Netflix: Schoolgirl Sleepover Sex Stories (Part 5): Sleepover Sexting and (Virtual) Sleepover Sex

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From the NY TIMES to Netflix: Schoolgirl Sleepover Sex Stories (Part 4): Camp Cabins

Lolita (Italian translation)

In Lolita (Vintage Books\Random House, 1991), Lolita confessed to Humbert that she had pre-teen “sapphic diversions” with Elizabeth Talbot - Lolita’s tent-mate at summer camp. Nabokov wrote:

Her astounding tale started with an introductory mention of her tent-mate of the previous summer, at another camp, a “very select” one as she put it. That tent-mate (“quite a derelict character,” “half-crazy,” but a “swell kid”) instructed her in various manipulations. At first, loyal Lo refused to tell me her name.

“Well,” she said. “[...] her name was Elizabeth Talbot, she goes now to a swanky private school, her father is an executive.”

I recalled with a funny pang the frequency with which poor Charlotte [Lolita’s mother] used to introduce into party chat such elegant tidbits as “when my daughter was out hiking last year with the Talbot girl.”

I wanted to know if either mother learned of those sapphic diversions.

“Gosh no,” exhaled limp Lo mimicking dread and relief, pressing a falsely fluttering hand to her chest.

Hence, in addition to bedrooms, hotel rooms, and prep school dorm rooms, schoolgirl sleepover sex happens in camp cabins as well. For example, on the “Postcards from Europe” episode of the Hot Girl Talks podcast (Aug 18, 22 [YouTube]), Carly Weinstein, an influencer with 175K Instagram (IG) followers, informed her co-hosts, Halley Kate (246K IG followers) and Jazmyn “Jaz” Smith (147K IG followers), that part of going to summer camp is seeing “plenty of vaginas” “inside of them” “all sides of them”. Carly,

“If you went to camp, you’d know that you saw plenty of vaginas in a lifetime and probably the inside of them. And probably all sides of them. Because at camp, you just are, like, crazy. It’s just a thing. I don’t know, like, people who went to camp know. Just camp things.”

In “Reality Check From Young Voices”, a chapter in Katie Cappiello and Meg McInerney’s Slut: A Play and Guidebook for Combating Sexism and Sexual Violence (The Feminist Press at CUNY, 2015), 17-year-old Danielle confessed that “lots of sexual firsts” happened at her “typical Jewish summer camp” like the filming (oral) sex tapes. Danielle shared:

“I go to this typical Jewish summer camp, where promiscuous behavior is practically encouraged and cultivated [...] with no parental supervision, there are lots of sexual firsts for everyone [...] There is one girl in particular, Georgia, who is really petite and very pretty [...] Josh and another boy coerced - basically forced - Georgia to give them blow jobs, while others filmed it on their phones.”

In Not That Kind of Girl, Lena Dunham shared that when she was a teen camper, she could not stop staring at her summer camp counselor’s “tits”. Lena wrote:

[...] [I] couldn't stop eyeing everyone else, staring at their round asses as they dressed, the dusky hairs emerging from the bathing suits. “You are so bicurious!” Lena's camp counselor said after she caught Lena: “[...] watching her tits swing as she changed.”

The following summer, then-14-year-old Lena found her “truest love”. “[Johnny] was blond, from South Carolina, and just shy of twenty-two.” In her bunk, Lena fantasized about discarding her: “[...] clothes, approaching Johnny, and letting him put his hands all over [...]” her body.

On the “They’re Just Not That Into You...” episode of the Hot Girls Talk podcast (August 4, 22 [YouTube]), Halley shared with Carly and Jaz: “You can also pop your cherry [i.e., have an orgasm] by riding a fucking horse. One of my friends […] she literally told all of us when we were like 9-years-old, ‘Yeah, I popped my cherry by riding this horse.’”

For The Cut’s 2014 Summer Sex Week feature, Maureen O'Connor posted, in the True Stories section, “10 Awkward, Nostalgic Stories of Summer-Camp Sexual Awakenings” (July 7, 2014). The piece related: “ten people’s most vivid memories of summer-camp sex — and sex gone awry, and confused preteen discoveries, and other strangely nostalgic humiliations.”

In the first memory, “Fake Orgasms Sweep Horse Camp”, readers learned about “horsegasms”, which was when a Camp Rim Rock horseback rider had an orgasm via a horse. The quest to have horsegasms arose after Lauren Petersen, the “alpha girl” of the cabin and a New Yorker, shared with her cabin mates that she was getting: “‘tickling feelings’ while grinding on a Western saddle.” Consequently, Lauren’s cabin mates, including the then-11-year-old storyteller, went on a “craze[d]” quest to have a horsegasm.

When I was 11, there was a fake-orgasm craze at Camp Rim Rock’s horseback riding camp for girls. It started when Lauren Petersen asked if anyone else had “tickling feelings” while grinding on a Western saddle. Lauren was the alpha girl of my cabin. She was cool and tough and came from New York and had a Beastie Boys cassette [...] If Lauren Petersen felt tickles on horses, then feeling tickles on horses was cool. Soon everyone was feeling tickles, or trying to feel them, or faking them. It was like the Salem Witch Trials. I will never say whether my horsegasms were fake.

Cruel Intentions 2: Manchester Prep (2000)

On a related note: On episode 06 of Amazon Prime’s Cruel Intentions (2024), streamers learned from Cece that years before she matriculated at Manchester College, she broke her hymen on a “Gorgeous palomino named Lucky.” Cece’s confession may have been inspired by Cruel Intentions 2: Manchester Prep (2000) where Cherie Claymon, a freshman at Manchester Prep, was forced to have a horsegasm while posting in Central Park, which was all part of a plot by Kathryn, an upperclassman, to turn Cherie into the "premier slut of Manchester Prep." Kathryn commanded Cherie, “Up and down. Back and forth. Faster! Faster!” And Kathryn asked Cherie, “How does that feel?”

In “Sexual Shaving Rituals”, a submitter submitted that, as a form of seduction, she and her then-12-year-old cabin mates used to shave their legs in the open on the campgrounds. But when she was 13, as a form of seduction, a 16-year-old female camp counselor asked the 13-year-old and another camper to shave her vagina. Outside. On the porch of their cabin!

We always shaved our 12-year-old legs outside, where the boys could see, sitting on towels spread over the pavement that connected the girls’ camp to the boys’ camp. When I was 13, my counselor got me and another camper to shave her vag before she met up with her boyfriend. We did it outside on the porch, her lying down and us on either side of her, giggling.

In addition, the teen exhibitionist counselor used to tell sex stories in the cabin. In a bit of S&M, the teen sadist “dared” the girls to put Gold Bond on their vaginas. (One can safely infer that the counselor (regularly) found pleasure in putting Gold Bond on her vagina; hence, the referral.) Although she was straight, the counselor got a “perverse kick out of it”. And after the counselor discovered that the submitter’s “prepubescent tits” were being pawed behind the bunk bed, the counselor gave the camper comforting advice.

She was 16 and told us all her sex stories. She once dared several girls in my bunk to put Gold Bond on our vaginas. It was so cold that it stung, and I experienced a kind of sensitivity generally reserved for varsity S&M games. I think the counselor got a perverse kick out of it, even though she is straight. She is now a wedding planner.

Still, she gave me some good advice: When my prepubescent tits were getting squeezed like tiny stress balls during make-outs behind the bunk, my counselor said I should tell the boys, “Be gentle.”

In “The Girl Who Discovered Orgasms”, in a bit of a sleepover cabin sex plot twist, a submitter admitted that she had sex with the cabin! And, consequently, she had her first orgasm. "

I had my first orgasm at Jewish summer camp, the result of dry-humping against a cabin.

But someone must have seen her “dry-humping against a cabin”. Right? Subsequently, she lost her virginity at camp a few years later, and to commemorate the occasion, she had five orgasms that night, including one in the cabin’s shower.

A few years later, I lost my virginity at a summer camp on a kibbutz. I had sex five times that night, including in the shower, and came every time! Talk about getting off to a good (blessed?) start.

Liara Roux shared in her memoir, Whore of New York: A Confession (Repeater Books, 2021), that while 5th graders, she and the "very beautiful" Melissa had girl-on-girl sex at camp in the woods of the Catskills where they kissed, Liara put her breast in Melissa’s mouth, and Melissa put her finger into Liara. Roux wrote:

One day, when we were walking to whatever activity was next, she asked me if I wanted to skip it [...] As we got further away from the camp, she stepped off the trail. I followed her. We wandered through the trees, and I tripped over a rock hidden under the snow.

We got to a clearing and she plopped on the ground, then started making a snow angel. “What about your pants?” I asked. “Won’t they get wet?” [...] “They already are.” I blushed at the implication. Seeing my flushed face, she stood up, walked to me, and kissed me [...] I couldn’t hold myself back. I kissed her, putting my hands around her neck, pulling her in.

[...] I pressed myself against her and we fell in the snow [...] I rolled on top of her, kissed her again [...] She wiggled, unzipping her coat, unzipping mine, and our hands were on each other’s chests, grasping at softness. I kissed her neck; she moaned and put my breast in her mouth [...] After much maneuvering, she pulled off her glove and stuck her hand down my pants. The chill of her fingertips pressing into me.

We walked back to camp, our faces flushed.

And Lindsay shared with Vera Papisova in the Teen Vogue piece "23 Masturbation Stories: Girls Get Real About Self-Love" (AUGUST 4, 2020), which is a compilation of preteen and teen masturbation stories, that she had a "freaky camp friend" who indulged in self-love. Lindsey enjoyed masturbating at camp too, but she only wished that she had known that, besides her "freaky camp friend", other girls masturbated too. Lindsay shared:

"I wish I knew that other girls masturbate, too! And that no matter what way you do it, it's not weird! Most girls don't open up to their friends about that stuff until college, unless you have the occasional freaky camp friend." - Lindsay

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Talia Lichtstein: NYC Influencer Who Prefers (Much) Older Men

On the “No More Bad Vibes” episode of the Bad Vibes podcast (Apr 29, 2022), then-23-year-old Talia Lichtstein, a NYC Influencer, shared with her co-host, Alexis Barber, that during her freshman and sophomore (i.e., teen) years at Berkeley, she had a “ridiculous amount” of age-gap sex but that the “risky - dangerous” sex was done to be validated by men and her sorority sisters.

“Girl, if I could only tell you the crazy shit that I did my freshman and sophomore year of college. I lived to do risky - dangerous […] sex. Doing crazy things. Meeting up with people [via Hinge] who were too old for me […] Having a ridiculous amount of sex.”

“I would always be the one in my sorority to always have funny [sex] stories to tell.”

Approximately five years later, Lichtstein shared that she has sex for fun, to be young, and to have a good time, like when she performed oral sex in a parking lot. But that she no longer has sex to be validated:

“Like me blowing that guy in the parking lot. That was a fun thing that I did. Not because of validation but because that guy was hot, and I was having a good time. And I was like, ‘This is funny.’ I really wanted to. Like, I was turned on and horny. Not because I wanted to impress him […]”

However, on “Vibe Check” (Feb 10, 2022), the very first episode of the podcast, Lichtstein confessed that she lives for validation.

“I love when people DM me and ask for my phone number. I love when people tell me I’m hot. I love when men slide into my DMs. They can be the ugliest people on earth. I live for this validation [….] I don’t need that kind of lack of validation […] I need that heavy in my life.”

And on “Breaking Up With Friends And Beefing With Andy Cohen” (Mar 10, 2022), Lichtstein reiterated her “unapologetic” need for validation. On the episode, Lichtstein said that she accidentally performed oral sex. “So, I tripped, and my mouth fell on my friend’s dick - basically.” That was done after Lichtstein’s friend advised her that they shouldn’t have sex, which she took as a challenge.

Lichtstein: “Of course, he’s saying we can’t sleep together; so, I’m automatically like, ‘Well, now we have to.’ Even though I don’t find him that attractive.”

Barber: “Honestly, I would do the same.”

Lichtstein: “Exactly, when a guy tells you that you’re not gonna fuck. Obviously, you’re only thinking about fucking; so, ever since, it’s been my mission to fuck this guy who I’m not even attracted to [...] It’s the validation.”

Barber: “I’m happy that you’re unapologetic about that.”

And Lichtstein elaborated on one of her freshman year age-gap affairs. She related that when she was 18, she had a “fun little adventure” with a 28-year-old that lasted for three months during which he gifted her Lyft gift cards to cover her travel expenses from campus to his place.

“I had about a three-month thing when I was a freshman in college; so, he worked at some tech company in San Francisco. He was much older than me. I was having so much fun. Oh my God. It was such, like, a fun little adventure. He, for either Valentine’s Day or my birthday, he did what I think is perfect. He got me a [Victoria’s Secret] gift card [...] In addition, to another present [Lyft gift card] that was completely not sexual; so, he really balanced it out […] I was only 18-years-old seeing a 28-year-old man.”

On “You Don’t Know Me” (Feb 24), Lichtstein shared her reasons for dating, “almost exclusively”, men whom were “a little too old”. She said that guys her age “suck”, but that age-gap affairs are beneficial, educational, and fun.

“It can be really beneficial to date an older guy […] Guys our age suck. I really get a lot from dating guys who are older than me. Like I feel like they benefit my life in so many ways. I’ve learned so much about life […] It’s just fun to hang out with them. “

“An older guy could be that perfect example of a guy who has a net positive value in your life […] These people are established. They know what they are doing.”

Lichtstein confessed that she’s never “really” been taken advantage of by an older man. “[…] I don’t think I’ve ever really been taken advantage of or hurt by these men. Like, I’ve never done anything that I really regret.” But she did say that, “It’s very easy to be taken advantage of.” Consequently, she strongly advised against age-gap sexting and/or age-gap sex tapes. (Oddly, Lichtstein stated that men are reluctant to ask (older) women for nudes, because (older) women are too smart to sext. #really)

Towards the end of the episode, Lichtstein shared that she started having age-gap affairs at an early age. For example, as a high school freshman (≈ 14-years-old), Lichtstein went to prom with an approximately 18-year-old senior.

“Speaking of age gaps, I was a freshman [when] I went to prom with some senior. Oh my God, it was the coolest thing of my life.”

She elaborated on “Dating: The Good, The Bad, & the F*cking Annoying” (April 7, 2022) that the reason seniors asked her, a mere freshman, to prom was due to her large fountains. Lichtstein bragged, “I had big titties from a young age.” Consequently, she asked rhetorically, “I wonder where - how long I’ve had this thing for older guys?”

And on “WTF Does LYLAS Mean?” (Mar 3, 2022), after being verified on Instagram, Lichtstein exclaimed:

“Congratulations to every [older] man I’ve fucked! […] Sorry your boyfriend fucked a verified girl. All the ladies out there. ‘Sorry.” It’s so cool! It makes my boobs ten times bigger. All my thirst traps are ten times hotter.” #validated

In addition, on the “WTF Does LYLAS Mean?” episode, Lichtstein shared that she had an upcoming date with a mere 30-year-old whom she met at Fiddlesticks Pub in the West Village. Both Barber and Lichtstein were surprised that the James Morrison look alike wasn’t even older.

Barber: “You and another person over 30.” [#smh]

Lichtstein: “Yeah.” [Laughs] “Here we go.” “Me and my 30-year-old. God. This is pretty young for me - honestly.”

Barber: “I agree. It is. It really is. It really is.”

On “The Slap Heard ‘Round The World” (Mar 31, 2022), Lichtstein (over) shared that she had the “most sexual” Bat Mitzvah, “[...] where everybody, like, made out and grinned on each other.” Then she complained, “I think it’s a crime that I didn’t get fucked silly in it.” 

It reference to a revealing dress that she wore to an event in Manhattan, wore in a TikTok, and posted on Instagram (i.e., “jerk off material”), she advised, “If you want to see my titties, they’re out on Insta.” Subsequently, Barber asked, “Old dude is visiting?” To which Lichtstein replied in the affirmative and shared that she spent a couple of nights with him at his “nice hotel”.

It turns out that Lichtstein’s attraction to older men began even before high school.  Per a tweet that she spoke about on “It’s Complicated: Family Holidays Edition” (Apr 14, 2022), a “younger” Lichtstein masturbated to Dr. Egon Spengler of Ghostbusters (1984).

“It’s so cute and trendy now to be into Jewish guys. Back in my day, I was a freak for masturbating to [Dr. Egon] Spengler from Ghostbusters […] I was obsessed with this guy when I was younger.”

Since Ghostbusters premiered in 1984, 23-year-old Lichtstein wasn’t born; thus, it wasn’t clear how much “younger” she was when she masturbated to images of Dr. Spengler. However, on “Over Coachella, Revolve’s Sh*tshow Festival, & Leave Rihanna Alone” (April 21, 2022), Lichtstein elaborated a bit. “I have always liked that man [i.e., Dr. Egon Spengler] since I was a child.”

In the end, Lichtstein is pro age-gap relationships, but with no sexting and/or sex tapes.

Note: Bad Vibes is no longer vibing. Barber said that she was “very busy”, but Lichtstein spilled that Barber was “faced with the options” from her prestigious and well-paying day job. Otherwise, Barber would be, ironically, Googling for a new position. 

Lichtstein: “If I were making the money that you were making […] I don’t think that I would risk it for this podcast either - this once weekly podcast […] Your decision is the one anybody would have made faced with the options that you were faced with - absolutely.”

Lola Kirke's WILD WEST VILLAGE: Schoolgirl Sleepover Hookups and the Allure of Older Men!

 

Lola Kirke is an actress (Sinners, 2025), country singer, and, most recently, the author of her memoir, Wild West Village (2025/Simon & Schuster). Lola shared in the memoir that when she was 10-years-old, her 15-year-old sister Emi (Jemima Kirke) asked Lola to pose in her “underwear, holding a [Marlboro Medium] cigarette”. 

Lola pleaded, “But I’m only ten, don’t you think-” 

Nonetheless, the risqué portrait was completed and hung, framed in gold, in the foyer of their West Village brownstone. Of the portrait, Lola wrote:

The naked ten-year-old smoking version of me hung framed in gold in our foyer for about a decade, until we moved. [...] Our home was part house, part museum, curated expertly by my mother. 

Lola wrote that throughout middle school, she had a friend “from down the street” named Tilly. Lola shared that throughout middle school, she would dry hump Tilly, which Lola described as a game, where Lola fantasized that she was “an unspecified businesswoman in love with her boss [i.e., Tilly] and his son [i.e., Tilly]”.

All through elementary school, I was either an unspecified businesswoman in love with her boss and his son (my friend Tilly down the street played both), or a sort of simple country wife. While the former game involved a lot of dry humping [...] 

In addition, after Lola shared that she used to play “an assortment of sex games with Barbies”, she wrote that she and Tilly exhausted “most” of their “playdates unknowingly enacting the plots of bad pornos”. Interestingly, Lola wrote that she didn’t really consider Tilly to be a friend. Why? Because Lola and Tilly were “essentially fucking”.

In addition, in terms of (pre) teen girl-on-girl affairs, Lola shared that she and a girlfriend “made out once behind the port-a-potties at a wedding”, and she and Erin played: “an eighth-grade game of spin the bottle”.

Lola related that when she was a child, her family spent their summers, specifically “[...] Augusts topless on private beaches, doused in tanning oil (no SPF), [we] were heathens.” Thus, unsurprisingly, while at sleepaway camp, a fellow camper put the following note in the “Warm and Fuzzy” jar: “Lola walks around naked.”

At her sister’s Sweet Sixteen, Lola “danced all night in Mary Janes and a ripped slip dress a few sizes too big.” Consequently, the straps of the slip dress “kept falling, baring” Lola’s “flat chest to the rest of the party.” Of her pre-teen public nudity, Lola wrote: “But what did I care?”

A year after discovering her father’s infidelity, which was when Lola was in the 7th grade, Lola started spending more time with Bettina Richards Goldblatt during the summers in East Hampton. Bettina’s home cost “Twelve million dollars,” which caused Lola to write: While we were wealthy, we weren’t Bettina wealthy. 

“Oblivion” MEDIUM (Feb 7, 2022)

While in East Hampton, Bettina would pay Lola compliments. For example, Bettina complimented Lola on her lips, because, per Bettina, Lola had “DSL” (i.e., “dick-sucking lips”). However, per Bettina, she had “nicer eyes and hair” than Lola. Interestingly, Shayla, Bettina’s nanny, purchased Bettina a bra that “generously gathered her chest fat into breast-like mounds.” (In “Oblivion”, a post on Medium (Feb 7, 2022), Lola wrote that Bettina “slept in a sports bra to prevent sagging”.) Of Bettina’s breast-like mounds”, Lola wrote: “She was becoming so grown up, just like I wanted to be and secretly felt I already was.”

One summer in East Hampton, after Lola “wandered upstairs to discover a trail of girls from Bettina’s day camp lined up outside her bathroom door”, Bettina introduced Lola to the pleasures of (teen) masturbation (via a waterfall). 

“You guys,” I announced myself, “what are you doing?”

“Shhhh!” they all hissed through retainers I envied.

[Per “Oblivion”, Lola learned from one of the girls, “Bettina’s doing a waterfall.”]

Suddenly, Bettina flung the door open. “Ugh! I’m so refreshed!”

“ `Cause you showered?” I asked, confused.

“No, idiot.” She grabbed my wrist and yanked me into the bathroom, then lay down in the tub. Spreading her legs wide on either side of the faucet, she turned it on, letting the water spill into her crotch. “But you don’t want it too hot!” she admonished.

Within seconds, her hips were pulsing in a strange rhythm, and she was laughing maniacally [...] [Lola wrote in “Oblivion” that Bettina “began to moan.”]

Bettina had learned the masturbation technique from “Samantha from Sex and the City”. And, by the way, per “Oblivion”, the trail of girls were waiting for their turn to masturbate, because after Bettina grabbed Lola’s wrist and yanked her into the bathroom, the girls protested, “No fair! She’s cutting!”

After dinner that evening, Lola told Harry, a boy one year her senior, about Bettina masturbating, to which Harry exclaimed, “Dude. Masturbation is THE BEST. You gotta try it.” Lola took Harry’s advice and lowered herself into her “antique bathtub”. The water “pressure had only two crude modes: off and full on.” With her “legs spread and lying back” and a few seconds after she turned the water on, her body “cramped and seized until it entered a fugue state.” Within minutes, Lola was “at it again.” Lola wrote in “Oblivion”, that “[...] after a few moments [of masturbating], I began to feel as if I had been murdered. A sweet, beautiful murder.

And just like Bettina, Lola was addicted to having orgasms. Lola even started masturbating via the jets in Bettina’s pool. When Lola was alone, she would use her hand. Lola even masturbated while watching films. Lola wrote:

I spent the rest of the summer either doing exactly this or figuring out ways I could. My interest in Bettina’s snacks was quickly replaced by an intense romance with the jets in her pool. Pretty much any time I was alone or shrouded in darkness, my hand was in my pants. Even during films like What a Girl Wants and The Life of David Gale. I was sick. An addict.

In “Oblivion”, of her addiction, Lola elaborated: “I spent hours doing what I later learned was fucking myself into oblivion. I imagined what it would be like to [sic] it with somebody else.” And Lola wrote that despite the fact that she was only 12, her “sex drive was an 11 out of 10.” 

In the 6th grade, Lola enrolled in the SoHo Child Actor’s Studio and soon after, Dina, the studio’s teacher, became Lola’s manager. In an effort to get an agent, Dina had Lola memorize a contemporary monologue. Lola wrote: “The monologue she selected was from a Tennessee Williams one-act play.” To Lola’s dismay, the monologue was of a child prostitute. 

Initially, Lola’s career “went nowhere”. Consequently, she had to “hone” her “skills in plays at school and camp”. However, to Lola’s dismay, despite being a preteen, she was “cast as even more ladies of the night”:

A Thai streetwalker in the ensemble of Chess.

Clytemnestra, Agamemnon’s sex slave in the middle school’s Greek festival

“Mozart’s loose wife in Amadeus.”

“The silent, philandering one in Strindberg’s The Stronger.”

“[A] pregnant teenager in a play about Troubles in Ireland.”

By the end of middle school, Lola had secured her “very first screen test.” But she had nothing to wear “that would pass for a “regular kid”, because Emi had been dressing Lola “for years” in miniskirts and fishnet stockings. (Lola lost the part to Kristen Stewart.)

In addition to (pre) teen nudity, (pre) teen girl-on-girl hookups, and (pre) teen masturbation, a recurring motif in Lola’s memoir is age-gap relationships. 

Lola shared that when she and her sisters were in their youth, at one of her family’s legendary Christmas parties, one of her sisters offered David Bowie her hand as an ashtray; however, surprisingly, Bowie declined.

I wrote surprisingly, because I previously related that Nikki McWatters wrote in the Huffington Post piece “Predatory Teenage Girls” (December 13, 2012) that “Lori Maddox, a famous teenage groupie from LA, is alleged to have lost her virginity to David Bowie at the age of 13. [And s]he was Jimmy Page's steady girlfriend while still underage." But in a Thrillist post titled "I Lost My Virginity to David Bowie, Confessions of a 70s Groupie" (Nov 3, 2015), Maddox stated that she was actually 15 when Bowie "de-virginized" her, which she described as a "beautiful" event.

In terms of requited age-gap relationships, Mino (Domino Kirke), Lola’s then-15-year-old older sister, had a brief affair with a movie star. During the affair, Mino “fled” with the “movie star via his private jet.” However, after a “stern call” from Simon Kirke, Mino’s father, the movie star returned Mino “just in time for her Sweet Sixteen”. Lola wrote that the Sweet Sixteen was “celebrity packed”, but that Mino’s movie star was “banned from the event, [however] he sent sixteen dozen roses in his stead.”

Simon Kirke, in addition to being the father of Lola, Emi, and Mino, is the co-founder of the rock group Bad Company. On the “Nancy Spungen” episode of The C-Word podcast (July 8, 2021), Lena Dunham and Alissa Bennet said that 16-year-old Spungen bragged that she had sex with every member of Bad Company but that she only gave hand jobs (simultaneously) to two members of the rock band Aerosmith. As we wrote earlier, Lola wrote that when she was in the 7th grade, she “discovered a thread of secret emails” on her father’s computer, which revealed to her that “on the road, he led a double life”.

The Strokes' Julian Casblancas

Despite Lola's age, Emi appeared to have a thing for Lola and smoking. One evening while hanging out in the hot tub on the Amagansett estate of a “gorgeous” pre-teen “heir to a vast tabloid fortune”, 17-year-old Emi “slinked”, topless, into the hot tub with the heir’s older brother and asked, “Do you smoke?’ Lola replied, “No. We’re twelve.” “But the Strokes smoke,” Emi said. Consequently, 12-year-old Lola “urgently” reached for the cigarette, because she “loved Julian Casblancas” - the then-24-year-old lead singer of The Strokes. (By the 10th grade, Lola’s mother would “dangle a Marlboro Light before” her, and “sometimes”, they smoked together.)

Vincent Gallo

One school day, Lola mentioned at the dinner table that she needed help with her ninth-grade term paper on Charles Manson. Consequently, Emi exclaimed, “You have to interview Gustava [Vincent Gallo]!” Emi knew Vincent Gallo well, because when she was an (approximately) 18-year-old freshman at the famous Rhode Island School of Design, Emi had “willingly” taken time off from school to go on vacation with (approximately) 42-year-old Vincent Gallo. Unfortunately, Gallo was of little help to Lola, but after speaking on the phone for three hours, he offered Lola the starring role in a music video he was directing. Emi said no. 

Next, Lola asked Poppy, Bea’s grandfather, “Could I please interview you about Charles Manson? Lola wrote that, despite Poppy’s age, she “loved” him, he was her “dream man”, and she  “wondered if there was something romantic between” them. Lola wrote that Poppy was her “type”, because: “[...] he was dependably dressed in a three-piece suit and doused in Chanel No. 5. He loved to sing Marilyn Monroe songs, and he winked a lot. My dream man.” 

Eve, a famous actress, used to help Lola with her acting. Eve and Jude, Eve's 16-year-old son, lived uptown, and they lived on a “sprawling” Long Island estate; however, a divorce forced Eve and Jude to move to the West Village with Lola’s family. Soon after, Lola “[...] became Jude’s girlfriend.”

Blanche, “who was a bit older than” Lola, took 15-year-old Lola out for Manhattans after Lola’s performance in her “school’s neofuturist production of Macbeth”. At the bar, Blanche asked Lola, “What’s Jude’s penis like?” Lola lied, “I’ve never seen it.” Blanche must’ve sensed that Lola was lying because Blanche continued to ask Lola about the size of Jude’s 16-year-old penis. Eventually, Lola informed Blanche that Jude’s penis was “perfectly nice”, which apparently was an understatement, because “One dark winter evening later that year,” Blanche informed Lola that Jude’s penis was “huge”. Blanche had found out about Jude’s penis size from Emi. Like Lola, Emi had first-hand knowledge about Jude’s penis, because, per Blanch, that prior summer, (approximately) 19-year-old Emi performed oral sex on (approximately) 15-year-old Jude in the Kirke’s pool house. 

“So, you did not tell me that Jude’s penis is huge!” she said with a strange guttural laugh [...]

“Who told you that? I [Lola] replied, feigning nonchalance.

“Emi,” Blanche said. “You know she blew him, right? In your pool house? Last Summer?”

In a fit of advanced rage, Lola called Emi at Rhode Island School of Design and repeatedly called Emi a “cunt”.

In the chapter “Little Lolita of West Fourth Street”, Lola introduced the readers to Ray. “Ray had played guitar in a semi-successful ‘90s rock band,” but when the band disbanded, Ray did a “brief stint” as Lola’s live-in manny. 15-year-old Lola was often left alone with Ray; so, she “hosted sleepovers with [her] girlfriends every other night and smoked ceaselessly inside” while Ray flirted with Lola’s friends. 

One morning, Lola “awoke to find Zora blushing in her underwear.” Zora informed Lola that she was smiling because Ray had kissed her while she was (nude) in the shower. 

Zora said, “I was in the shower, and he came in, and he just…kissed me. Oh! And then he asked me where the rolling papers were.” 

And somehow, Ray had gotten hold of Zora’s bra, because: “A few weeks later, the housekeeper found Zora’s oversized bra stuffed in Ray’s sheets.” However, Lola did not say how Zora's “black lace” bra got into Ray’s bed. Of Zora’s bra, Lola wrote:

What do we do?” my mother asked [...]

“Probably give it back?” I suggested. 

“You’re right. It does look expensive,” she agreed. 

Very interestingly, Lola shared that as she was writing her 10th grade English paper on Lolita, she felt connected to the book, she shared that the Colombian seamstresses whom worked in her mother’s basement called her Lolita, and she related that when she was 13, her mother gave her “an original poster of the Kubrick film version.” And Lola wrote that she: “[...] thought it was a good thing to be a sexually precocious young girl, and who was more that than Lolita?” Thus, it appears that Lola agrees with novelist Robertson Davies' assessment of Lolita as: “[...] not [about] the corruption of an innocent child by a cunning adult, but [about] the exploitation of a weak adult by a corrupt child”.

Of Gideon, Lola wrote that he: “[...] had been a heartthrob movie star since he was a teenager, but he no longer looked like it [...] he was now almost unrecognizably bearded and fat.” One day, at Lola’s house, “Gideon was sprawled across a sofa”, and he announced to no one in particular, “I want pot.” Lola’s mother replied, “Oh, Lola loves pot,” which was true, because Lola shared that, at the time, she was “smoking at least eight times per day.” 

To fulfill Gideon’s request, Lola “ran upstairs two at a time”, grabbed her “stash”. Subsequently, Lola, in a “hot pink American Apparel catsuit”, and Gideon walked to Gideon’s loft where Lola “rolled a joint on the kitchen counter”, they smoked it “until it was gone”, and Lola “wafted to the center of his loft and began to dance for him” as she “considered what it would be like to kiss him.” 

Although, despite the fact that Gideon was a movie star, Lola still held the stance that older men should “on no occasion wear sandals.” Lola realized that her “seduction had worked” after Gideon said, while “patting his lap”, “Come sit here.”

During Emi’s second year at the Rhode Island School of Design, which was when Lola was “just starting high school”, Lola went to visit Emi, whom had a “large poster of a movie about a pretty child heroin addict” hanging on her off-campus apartment wall. After Emi “did a line” and Lola smoked (a cigarette), they went to a house party where Lola sat “on a twin bed, falling in love with [Gary] a local.” 

Lola wrote that Gary was like “the whole solar system”; however, at the end of their conversation, Gary wrote his number down on a piece of plywood with the caption: “Call me when yer [sic] 18”, which Lola brandished “like a trophy.” Later, at the party, Lola learned from Emi that Gary had recently broken into her apartment, but Emi reassured Lola that, “It was fine. We had sex.”

Like Paris Hilton and Julia Fox, Lola went to nightclubs in high school too. However, unlike Paris and Julia Fox, Lola went to nightclubs with her mother too. Lola wrote:

Being underaged, I’d discovered the secret to getting in wasn’t having a fake ID but looking like you didn’t give a shit.

Lola and Gael García Bernal in MOZART IN THE JUNGLE

Lola starred in Amazon Prime’s Mozart in the Jungle (2014–2018), but when she first learned of the role, she wrote that “the whole thing sounded dubious”; however, her “imagination went wild” after she learned that Gael García Bernal “was attached to star”, because she spent her adolescent masturbating to Bernal whom is 12 years Lola’s senior. 

One afternoon [...] my agent called [...] he told me how a website that typically sold books was now making TV shows. Except the TV shows would be played not on an actual TV but on your computer. The whole thing sounded dubious [...]

When he mentioned that a foreign film star I’d spent my adolescence getting off to was attached to star, my imagination went wild. 

Surprisingly, on the “Nancy Spungen” episode of The C-Word podcast, after Dunham said that 16-year-old Spungen bragged that she had sex with every member of Bad Company, Dunham failed to mention that Lola and Jemima’s father was a co-founding member of Bad Company. Of course, Dunham and Emi (Jemima) were co-stars on Girls. However, Dunham did write a blurb for Wild West Village:

Lola Kirke has captured more than just her own wild and specific New York upbringing. She has captured the yearning of a generation [...] She is a wise, witty, and unsparing writer.” - Lena Dunham