“Hot Girl Talks” Podcast: American Hot Girls and European Older Men

During the summer of 2023, I began doing research for a new book, but last week, I re-visited my notes from the “Postcards from Europe” episode of the Hot Girl Talks podcast (Aug 18, 22), and I discovered that the episode had been removed from Spotify. (I’m not sure if a video for the episode was recorded, but there’s a hidden video on the YouTube playlist.) Eventually, I found the episode on Boomplay. But why was the episode removed from Spotify and hidden on YouTube?

To my knowledge, Jaz, Halley, and Carly (i.e., the Hot Girls) didn’t (over) share anything more than usual. For example, on the episode, which was recorded on a cruise in Marseille while on the way to Cannes, Jaz related that she didn’t pack her anxiety medicine; therefore, at JFK, she medicated with alcohol, got drunk, and began a conversation with a “random 45-year-old man” whom purchased shots for Jaz and Halley.

Carly, “Jaz was talking to a random 45-year-old man sitting next to her that was going to Vegas.”

Jaz, “He did buy us shots.”

Carly, “Then he bought them [Halley and Jaz] shots.”

Jaz, “I was curious about his job […]”

Although, then-25-year-old, Jaz was “curious” about the older man’s job, she and the man did not exchange contact information.

Jaz, Carly, and Halley

Jaz didn’t have her anxiety medicine, but she did have her weight loss medicine, which, per Jaz, “[...] makes you have to shit your brains out, which is why you lose weight on it.” In addition, Jaz ate ice cream and mac and cheese on the plane. Consequently, during the ride from the airport, Jaz started sweating and informed the other Hot Girls, “I’m going to shit my pants.” Ultimately, she found a bathroom, and she was in the loo for “awhile”, because she “took the fattest shit”. Jaz was self-conscious about exiting, because she feared that someone would know that she had “blown up” the loo.

Isabel Mayfair

After arriving in London, the Hot Girls went to Isabel [Mayfair], which is where they met “these random men”. The men were described as “wealthier” but “old”.

Carly, “They were all, like, finance, kind of like people. They were definitely, like, wealthier [...]”

Jaz, “Let me just preface. They were old.”

Carly, “They were old. They were old.”

Jaz, “Not, like, old, but, like, ancient.”

Carly, “No. They were in their 40s. They weren’t ancient.”

Halley, “That one guy was easily in his 50s. Maybe 60s.”

However, one of the men, a President Snow look-alike, was “way sexier”; thus, then-22-year-old Halley confessed that she would have “fucked him”.

Halley, “President Snow from Game of Thrones, but, like, way sexier. Like, I’m not gonna lie. I would have fucked him. I would have.”

Carly, “[...] he had kids. Like, he was super nice. Actually, he was probably my favorite.”

Jaz, “I agree.”

Carly, “He was sexy. He was sexy. If you guys saw him, you'd get it.”

It appears that Halley did not fuck the President Snow look-alike, but then-25-year-old Carly made out with a man at Isabel whom she said was, like, a 41-year-old New York City finance bro type.

Halley, “Carly walked up to a table of guys. Asked if they were single. They were all in relationships, except for one, we thought they were so hot - inside.”

Carly, “Also, we need to backtrack. So I kept, like, hanging out with this guy H. Who was, like, kind of ugly, but he gave me, like, New York City finance bro vibes. He was, like, 41 [...] it was a mix of, like, the London accent, me being drunk, him saying he was in finance, or no, he was a lawyer. And he was visiting New York soon, and he was talking about his family. And we just, like, had a really great conversation [...] but usually I, like, don't like ugly guys. But TBH, he's, he was probably a 5 [...] Okay, all right, three and a half, but then imagine he's a 3 and a half, but he has a British accent, he's rich, he's older, he's a lawyer, and he has everything in common with you. It bumps it up to, like, at least an 8 and a half [...] Okay, I'm sorry, but for me, that's what my thought process was. I'm just defending myself.”

Halley, “No. It’s fine. Like, it was funny. And then she made out with him, and it was, like, alright, slay. Somebody's gotta do it.”

After London, the Hot Girls went to Opium in Barcelona where Jaz and Halley played “What are the Odds?’ that Jaz would make out with an old man.

Jaz, “Me and Halley play “What are the Odds?” [...] You say, ‘What are the odds that you do XYZ?’ And someone's like, oh, 1 through 100. And then you say, like, 123, and then you say that same number. Me and Halley play “What are the Odds?” I’ll make out with this old, disgusting man.”

Halley, “I’m not even kidding. He was a negative 4 out of 10.”

Jaz, “He was disgusting [...] And we go, ‘123’ [...] We were one number off for me having to make out with this disgusting, horrendous man.”

And at Opium, Carly said that she was, “[...] over at this table with these, like, Italian men. I thought the one was, like, pretty cute [...] I thought he was cute. He was younger. [...] And again, it's like, for me, it's about the banter and, like, the flirt. And he just, like, had the banter. He had - the banter. ” Consequently, Carly made out with the Italian man.

Interestingly, Carly described the Italian man as “younger” - not young; thus, we can safely infer that, unlike the men in London, he was below 50.

Summing up Barcelona, Carly said that it was a vibe, “Barcelona was fun for me because, like, I was making out with someone [i.e., the Italian man] and, like, when you’re making out with someone in the club it’s like a vibe.”

In a bit of a non-sequitur, Carly shared that she dry-shaved her pubic area and armpits. Consequently, she had the “worst razor fucking burn” from the dry shaving, “walking, chaffing, and sweating”. She asked Jaz and Halley to examine her vagina area with a flashlight, but Jaz had never looked at a vagina that “much and that long”; however, Carly related that, as a “crazy” camper, she had seen “plenty of vaginas”.

Carly, “If you went to camp you’d know that you saw plenty of vaginas in a lifetime and probably the inside of them. And probably all sides of them. Because at camp you just are, like, crazy. It’s just a thing. I don’t know, like, people who went to camp know. Just camp things.”

Next, the Hot Girls spoke about how difficult it was to post photos on social media. For example, Halley confessed, “I used to, like, Facetune for hours and do all this crazy shit.” Then, Jaz shared that, via vibrator, she climaxed on the cruise to Cannes. However, while Carly related that she puts her vibrator “inside”, Jaz said that she does not.

Jaz, “My climax was finally being able to masturbate yesterday [on the cruise].”

Halley, “You did.”

Jaz, “Yeah.”

Carly, “Yeah. She told me.”

Carly, “I can’t masturbate without a vibrator; so, I just don’t.”

Jaz, “Do you put your vibrator inside of you though.”

Carly, “Yeah.”

Jaz, “I don’t”

Carly, “Mine is like the inside and the on top one. You know? Okay. Yeah. I need - I like both. […] I’ll not masturbate for weeks - if I’m away.

In the end, the question remains: Why was “Postcards from Europe” removed from Spotify and hidden on YouTube? Was it because Jaz regretted sharing she “took the fattest shit” in a loo? Was it because Halley confessed that she would have fucked a President Snow look-alike? And/or was it because Carly regretted sharing that she made out with two different men in Europe? Or did Spotify remove the episode?

Notes:

1. Not having a video to reference made it difficult to distinguish Carly’s and Halley’s voices; therefore, there could be some mistakes with the quotes. To verify the quotes, reference the episode on Boomplay.
2. Per the Daily Mail, Halley was 24 on August 25, 2024; thus, she was approximately 22 when the episode was recorded. In an article that was dated September 29, 2022, Carly shared with Naluda Magazine, “I’m a 25-year old NYC-based lifestyle influencer [...]”, which would have made her approximately 25 when the episode was recorded. And in May of 2024, Reddit users MakeANewUserName and eading_Run1755 commented that Jaz is 27, which would have made her the same age as Carly when the pod was recorded.

Marc Jacobs' Ads: The Lolita Effect and Seductive Teen Models

About a month ago, I saw an advertisement on 40th and 8th in Manhattan for Marc Jacobs’ Daisy Wild perfume. Consequently, I recalled a short post that I wrote back in January of 2013 about Marc Jacobs' Oh Lola! perfume advertisement that featured 17-year-old Dakota Fanning holding a large phallic shaped bottle of Oh Lola! invitingly between her legs.

Jacobs related that he chose Fanning because he, " [...] knew she could be this contemporary Lolita - seductive yet sweet." Thus, we know from Jacobs himself that Fanning was chosen to seduce.

In addition, Jacobs agreed with professor and "man of letters" Robertson Davies' assessment of Lolita as: “[...] not [about] the corruption of an innocent child by a cunning adult, but [about] the exploitation of a weak adult by a corrupt child."

However, Mark Sweney posted on The Guardian “Marc Jacobs' Dakota Fanning ad banned for being 'sexually provocative'” (8 Nov 2011) Sweney wrote:

A provocative ad campaign for Marc Jacobs perfume featuring 17-year-old Dakota Fanning, the US actor who has starred in films including War of the Worlds and Charlotte's Web, has been banned [in the UK] following accusations that it sexualized children.

The magazine campaign [...] featured Fanning wearing a short skirt and holding a bottle of Marc Jacobs perfume in what the advertising regulator deemed a "sexually provocative" position between her legs.

And Sweney shared that the UK’s Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) received complaints that the advertisement was offensive and irresponsible, because it portrayed 17-year-old Fanning in a "sexualized manner" due to the "sexually provocative" way that the bottle of Oh Lola! “drew attention to her sexuality.” And, in the eyes of the ASA, Fanning “looked to be under the age of 16.” The ASA elaborated:

"We considered that the length of her dress, her leg and position of the perfume bottle drew attention to her sexuality." 

"Because of that, along with her appearance, we considered the ad could be seen to sexualise a child. We therefore concluded that the ad was irresponsible and was likely to cause serious offence."

15-year-old Ever Anderson for Daisy Wild | Marc Jacobs

Undeterred by the ASA, about a decade later, Jacobs had 15-year-old Ever Anderson pose with a large bottle of Daisy Wild in her lap, which “drew attention to her sexuality.” (Note: Anderson posted on her Instagram account that the photos were taken on October 22, 2022, in Atlanta, GA.)

And Anderson posed, one could say, comparatively innocently, with a number of other teen models; however, I would imagine that the ASA would have some issues with the video for Daisy Wild. In the video, the barely covered teen models stripped down to their white bras and panties, intimately touched while posing for the camera, and then skinny dipped into a Georgia lake. After frolicking in the lake, the scantily clad models attended a bonfire where they danced intimately. One model even danced at the bonfire in a sheer mini-skirt; thus, revealing her white panties. 

Prior to the release of Daisy Wild, Introducing Daisy Trio (2014), a film directed by Sofia Coppola, was posted on YouTube (Nov 25, 2014). In the film, once again, the teen models were skimpily clad in all white and, once again, the models frolicked intimately with implied sapphic diversions. 

In addition to perfumes, Jacobs has a fashion line. Brooke Frischer posted on Fashionista that "Heaven [by Marc Jacobs] and Bluemarine Made the High School Movie Wardrobe of Your Dreams a Reality" (JUL 7, 2023). Frischer wrote that Heaven by Marc Jacobs and Bluemarine are "beloved by Gen-Z" and that the campaign was shot "[...] by Petra Collins to boot.".

Per Frischer, Blumarine by Marc Jacobs features 11 of the brand's best-selling pieces, which boast the brand's "signature touches". The best-selling signature pieces consist of ultra-mini skirts (and they mean ultra), lacy pink camisoles, baby tees (and they mean baby), and cropped sweatshirts - among other revealing pieces. 

Frischer related that Collins photographed the, seemingly, teen models at "the same high school the photographer used for Olivia Rodrigo's "Good 4 U" music video". Why? It was done, strategically, to further: "[...] the appeal of the new collaboration for angsty teens and angsty-teens-at-heart everywhere." 

I would imagine that only an angsty teen would wear a pink lace baby graphic tee with an ultra-mini camo skirt to her high school English class, because I opine that Blumarine by Marc Jacobs is giving 1970s Times Square (teen) prostitutes.

Interestingly, of the graphic pieces, Frischer shared that Nicola Brognano, Blumarine's Creative Director, related: “Each piece of the capsule is a gem and truly reflects today's spirit, balancing ease and coolness in the most feminine and lighthearted way." Feminine? Yes. Lighthearted? No

And Ava Nirui, the creative director of Heaven by Marc Jacobs, said in a statement. "[...] I think this collection makes total sense for both of us."

David Hamilton's "Tendres cousines" (1980)

In the end, Marc Jacobs’ perfume campaigns raises some rhetorical questions: 

1. What does (near) teen nudity and sapphic diversions have to do with (selling) perfume? 
2. Were Jacobs and Coppola inspired by David Hamilton? 
3. And would the ASA approve of Blumarine by Marc Jacobs?

From the NY Times to Podcasts and A-List Celebrities: Schoolgirl Sleepover Sex?!

Back in 2022, we wrote about the New York Times Magazine THE ETHICIST piece “My Daughter Is Having Sex With Her Best Friend. Must I Tell Her Mom?” (March 22, 2022) The piece is about a mother who needs advice, because her teen daughter is having girl-on-girl sex during sleepovers with her best friend.

Here's part of the question submitted to THE ETHICIST:

My daughter is in a newly romantic relationship with her best friend, who is also female. Both are in their midteens. My daughter recently confided in me that they have had sex. She insists, however, that I am not allowed to tell the friend’s mother, because the mother wouldn’t let them have sleepovers or hang out as much. My ex-husband is the one who hosts the sleepovers, and he looks the other way when they are in the bedroom, reasoning that (or so my daughter tells me), “It’s OK because there are no penises involved.” [...] Are my ex-husband’s actions egregious? Name Withheld

We decided to revisit the New York Times piece after we listened to the “My First Time (with a woman)” episode of the Becca Moore podcast. On the podcast, Moore shared that during middle school sleepovers, she and her friends would “sit in a circle and all make out with each other.” Moore shared:

Like, honestly, in middle school we used to, like, sit in a circle and all make out with each other. And no boys would be around. I don't really know why we were doing that, but I did love those sleepovers. That was fun.

By high school, Moore and her girls were still making out, but by high school boys were present during the sleepovers. Consequently, the making out wasn’t for pleasure anymore but for entertainment. Moore shared:

And then when I got to high school, we would have sleepovers and make out, like, play spin the bottle but boys would be there. And it was kind of, like, a little bit, I will say, the high school one, was a little bit performative.

I think that we were not really, like, turned on. We were only doing it because boys were watching, and I think we thought that it was hot for them to watch - at least from my perspective. I think I was more so thinking about the boys and than the girls.

Miley Cyrus (13)

Speaking of middle-school girl-on-girl sex and podcasts, Miley Cyrus shared with Alex Cooper on the Call Her Daddy podcast (August 13, 2020) that when Cyrus was a pre-teen she had a girl-on-girl orgy, which Cooper referred to as “amazing”.

Miley Cyrus with Alex Cooper

Cyrus: "Yeah, when I was like 11 or 12 [...] I got most of my girlfriends to hook up with me."

Cooper: "That is such an amazing [thing]. That's amazing!"

Cyrus: "The first time I ever hooked up with anyone was with a girl. Two of them."

Cooper: "And did you go past first base?"

Cyrus: "Yeah! Oh yeah!"

Cooper: "Miley's like, 'Of course. Oh my God. Absolutely.'"

Jessica Simpson (13) 

Jessica Simpson shared in her memoir, Open Book, that she had pre-teen girl-on-girl sex, from the age of 6 to 12, with a family friend. Of course, the sex happened during sleepovers. Simpson wrote:

It would start with tickling my back [...]

Eventually it wasn't just at nighttime. She would get me to go into a closet with her, or just find a way to linger until we were alone. It got to the point that she would sneak into the bathroom to watch me shower.

In addition, Simpson confessed to People that she was “very shameful”, because she initiated girl-on-girl sex during sleepovers with her family friend as well:

“I allowed it to happen, so I felt that I was as much of the abuser as the abused. So I was very shameful during that time, from 6 to 12 years old.”

Nancy Friday's My Secret Garden: Women’s Sexual Fantasies (Trident Press, 1973) is an international bestselling “groundbreaking” collection of women's fantasies. (Interestingly, Friday’s husband was Norman Pearlstein - the editor-in-chief of Time, Inc.) In the book, several women shared their middle school girl-on-girl sexual escapes during sleepovers.

Clarissa shared that she remembers when she and her friend were caught masturbating with candles when they were 12.

Marina began to be aware of men at the age of 9 or 10 and thought about them while she masturbated; however, Marina only had "a vague idea of what lovemaking was" until she met her friend, a 10-year-old Mediterranean girl. Marina and the Mediterranean nymphet used to sit at opposite ends of the bathtub and pour warm water from a Russian silver teapot all over their clitorises while caressing their bodies "with infallible, instinctive verve."

Celia shared that when she was about 8, she used to bully her: "[...] friend into playing games where we had to pretend to take off our clothes and the 'wicked man' would make us walk in the street [...]" In addition, Celia confessed that when she was 10, she wanted to be a stripper and that she had "intimate contact" with her girlfriend.

And when Alison was 14, she had an "[...] unusual relationship with a close girlfriend." For example, Alison's girlfriend would dress her in a sexy bikini made of chiffon scarves, before she pretended that she was a "rowdy seaman" and raped Allison.

Of course, pre-teen girl-on-girl sex is restricted to sleepovers. For example, Liara Roux shared in her memoir, Whore of New York: A Confession (Repeater Books, 2021), that she had pre-teen girl-on-girl sex with the "very beautiful" Melissa. In the 5th grade. Outdoors. In the woods. During a youth retreat. In the Catskills. Roux wrote:

One day, when we were walking to whatever activity was next, she asked me if I wanted to skip it [...] As we got further away from the camp, she stepped off the trail. I followed her. We wandered through the trees, and I tripped over a rock hidden under the snow.

We got to a clearing and she plopped on the ground, then started making a snow angel. “What about your pants?” I asked. “Won’t they get wet?” [...] “They already are.” I blushed at the implication. Seeing my flushed face, she stood up, walked to me, and kissed me [...] I couldn’t hold myself back. I kissed her, putting my hands around her neck, pulling her in.

[...] I pressed myself against her and we fell in the snow [...] I rolled on top of her, kissed her again [...] She wiggled, unzipping her coat, unzipping mine, and our hands were on each other’s chests, grasping at softness. I kissed her neck; she moaned and put my breast in her mouth [...] After much maneuvering, she pulled off her glove and stuck her hand down my pants. The chill of her fingertips pressing into me.

We walked back to camp, our faces flushed.

Unsurprisingly, pre-teen girl-on-girl sex isn’t limited to nonfiction. For example, in Lolita, Lolita confessed to Humbert Humbert that she had pre-teen “sapphic diversions” with Elizabeth Talbot - Lolita’s tent-mate at summer camp. Nabokov wrote:

Her astounding tale started with an introductory mention of her tent-mate of the previous summer, at another camp, a “very select” one as she put it. That tent-mate (“quite a derelict character,” “half-crazy,” but a “swell kid”) instructed her in various manipulations. At first, loyal Lo refused to tell me her name.

“Well,” she said. “[...] her name was Elizabeth Talbot, she goes now to a swanky private school, her father is an executive.”

I recalled with a funny pang the frequency with which poor Charlotte [Lolita’s mother] used to introduce into party chat such elegant tidbits as “when my daughter was out hiking last year with the Talbot girl.”

I wanted to know if either mother learned of those sapphic diversions?

“Gosh no,” exhaled limp Lo mimicking dread and relief, pressing a falsely fluttering hand to her chest.

"Miller’s Girl" (2024) | Winnie Seduces Mr. Fillmore

And most recently in the film Miller’s Girl (2024), that was written and directed by a woman, Cairo (Jenna Ortega) and Winnie decided to sext Mr. Fillmore - their high school’s physics teacher and baseball coach. 

"Miller’s Girl" (2024) | Cairo and Winnie Sext Mr. Fillmore

In the sext, the schoolgirls are engaged in girl-on-girl kissing, which, per Winnie, is what all girls do when they’re alone at night. 

Cairo said to Winnie, “You should tell him [via sext] you’re with me. And that we’re doing what all girls do when they’re alone at night.”

Mr. Fillmore texted: And what might that be?

Cairo said to Winnie, “[Tell him] [w]e are measuring the depths of our sexuality within the safe confines of our friendship.”

Lastly, the naive (e.g., feminists) would have you believe that (pre) teens engaged in girl-on-girl sex is the sole idea of dirty old men (i.e., porn directors and authors of sleaze), but clearly that’s not the case. And we won’t even (fully) mention the news reports that report that it’s not uncommon for girls to livestream their sleepovers. For example, Alexandra S. Levine posted on Forbes "How TikTok Live Became ‘A Strip Club Filled With 15-Year-Olds’" (Apr 27, 2022). As Moore said, schoolgirls consider it hot for males to watch. In addition, per Levine, teen girls do it for likes, followers and gifts.

Famous Age-Gap Romance: VANDERPUMP RULES' Tom Schwartz (41) and Sophia Skoro (23)

Rebecca Aizin related in her People piece, “Who Is Tom Schwartz's Girlfriend? All About Sophia Skoro” (April 18, 2024), that 41-year-old Tom Schwartz of Vanderpump Rules fame is, unabashedly, dating 23-year-old Sophia Skoro.

The Vanderpump Rules star started dating his girlfriend, Sophia Skoro, in December 2023, nearly two years after splitting from his ex-wife and costar Katie Maloney in March 2022. The 23-year-old is 18 years younger than Schwartz, but the age gap hasn’t bothered either of them.

Schwartz shared during the Access Hollywood interview, “Tom Schwartz Reveals If New Girlfriend Sophia Is 'The One' [...]”(Apr 10, 2024), that Skoro, whom graduated from the University of Oregon in June 2022,  is “cool”, “clever” and “unconventionally funny”.

"She's just really effing cool! She's charismatic and clever and kind of unconventionally funny," Schwartz said in an April 2024 interview with Access Hollywood. "She's way cooler than me."

Like 20-year-old Natalie Joy who initiated an age-gap relationship via a DM with 38-year-old Nick Viall, Skoro initiated the age-gap affair with Schwartz by informing him that he was hot.

During an April 2024 appearance on Nick Viall’s The Viall Files podcast, Schwartz shared that Skoro made the first move when she met him at his bar, TomTom, in the summer of 2023.

"I was like, 'He's looking hot,' so I just told him," Skoro said. "I simply just told him, and that was it."

After meeting Skoro, Schwartz shared with a friend, “I just met the most beautiful human being I've ever laid eyes on.” Subsequently, the budding age-gap couple exchanged numbers and went on a dinner date. Consequently, per Aizin, “Schwartz ‘couldn’t get away from’ Skoro”.

Skoro and Schwartz on TikTok

Aizin related that Schwartz is unbothered by people who criticize his 18-year age-gap with Skoro - especially since Skoro initiated the relationship and by denying that fact, people “strip away” Skoro’s agency. Aizin wrote:

Though people were quick to point out that Skoro is 18 years younger than Schwartz, the Schwartz & Sandy’s owner said it doesn’t bother him.

"Honestly, if I was a lecherous old man trolling bars, like, seeking out young women, I think that would feel gross,” Schwartz shared in The Viall Files podcast. “But we just kind of bumped into each other. We hit it off."

He added that he felt “defensive” when people judged their age gap, stating that he doesn’t like when “they strip away a woman's agency.”

In the end, like Joy and Viall, maybe Skoro and Schwartz will have an age-gap marriage. 

NEW YORK TIMES Report | Jacky Dejo: From 13 on Instagram to 18 on OnlyFans

In their third report on self-sexualized teens this year for the New York Times, Jennifer Valentino-DeVries and Michael H. Keller profiled 18-year-old Jacquelina “Jacky Dejo” de Jong in the post “She Was a Child Instagram Influencer. Her Fans Were Grown Men” (Nov. 10, 2024).

Valentino-DeVries and Keller wrote that Jacky Dejo, a Dutch citizen, was 6-years-old when her parents started posting pictures on Facebook “[...] to share her snowboarding prowess.” However, after she turned 13 she “[...] began promoting [Chance Loves] a swimwear brand.” Interestingly, Jacky Dejo initiated the collaboration and “[...] praised its swimsuits.” Valentino-DeVries and Keller:

So it seemed innocuous, she said, when at age 13 a youth swimwear brand, Chance Loves, offered to collaborate with her on social media after she contacted the company and praised its swimsuits. The brand featured her on its website and sent her bikinis, which she sported in photos she posted on Instagram. [Emphasis added]

Jacky Dejo (Instagram)

Only a few months after posing in bikinis on Instagram for Chance Loves: “[...] Jacky was fielding requests from photographers and obscure clothing brands that sent her bathing suits and tight athletic outfits.”

Interestingly, 15-year-old Jacky Dejo reported that her phone was stolen at a skateboarding venue in Barcelona. Subsequently, her nude teen selfies were posted online. “She wasn’t ashamed of the material, she said, but it was meant for private use.” Consequently, she received a “lucrative offer” from SelectSets, an influencer platform, which posted images of “[...] girls, some scantily clad.” (Note: Per Valentino-DeVries and Keller: “Some don’t believe her phone was stolen and say she sold the explicit images herself.”

Initially, Jacky Dejo was reluctant to join SelectSets, but after being guaranteed $10,000 a month and with her parent’s blessing, the 15-year-old joined SelectSets. Her first post was an “[...] Instagram photo of her straddling a motorcycle in a string bikini.” Valentino-DeVries and Keller:

Not long after her phone was stolen, Jacky got a lucrative offer from a man running a new influencer platform, SelectSets, that posted images of young women and girls, some scantily clad.

At first, she and her father thought the man, an American named James Lidestri, was running a scam. But when he guaranteed her $10,000 a month to start, she said, they took notice.

At 15, her parents told her, she was mature enough to make her own decision. She announced her new venture with an Instagram photo of her straddling a motorcycle in a string bikini. Her understated makeup and natural hair styling made her look very much a teenager, and her audience reacted positively.

“Submissive and breedable,” one Instagram commenter posted.

Even one of Jacky Dejo's teacher's subscribed? (Telegram)

After joining SelectSets, Jacky Dejo’s: “[...] earnings had already topped $800,000.” And by the time she turned 16, to make even more money, Jacky Dejo started MyInfluencer.Academy [MIA] and began recruiting other teen models to “sell racy images”. Valentino-DeVries and Keller:

Jacky was game [...] It was also her first taste of true financial independence: Shortly after she finished her schooling, she and her father said, her earnings had already topped $800,000.

After she turned 16, she sought to make more money by recruiting teenagers for her own platform [...] For almost all the girls, the business model is to sell racy images that do not involve outright nudity, though the site has pushed the limits of the law.

Jacky Dejo re-posted her banned TiKToks. (Telegram)

Jacky Dejo recruited teen models from SelectSets, Instagram, and Patreon. And: “[s]he even took suggestions from men in a Telegram channel.” On MIA, which could gross approximately $100,000 a month, Jacky Dejo took “20 percent off the top”.

MyInfluencer.Academy (Instagram)

Unsurprisingly, after she turned 18, Jacky Dejo, like 18-year-old Sami Sheen, joined OnlyFans (“$10 a month on OnlyFans for nude images”) and, like 18-year-old Claudia Conway, she joined Playboy (“$5 a month”). Valentino-DeVries and Keller:

Jacky does not believe she will be in the industry forever [...] But the day after she turned 18, her playbook had not changed. She delighted her online followers by joining the adult site OnlyFans and soon thereafter, Playboy.com.

“I’m happy,” she said, noting that she owns a boat and an apartment and has plenty of money to stay active in the international snowboarding circuit. “Can’t really beat it.”

(Interestingly, initially, Jacky Dejo joined Playboy when she was 16! But that was before the site changed the age minimum to 18.)

Of course, there are other sites like MIA. For example, Valentino-DeVries and Keller referenced SuperFanVerse, Passes and BrandArmy. Valentino-DeVries and Keller:

On one site, SuperFanVerse, an account featuring an 11-year-old girl advertised photos in a bikini and “see thru dress” and sought cash tips so she could “get some Roblox $ $,” referring to an online game platform popular with children.

On another, Passes, a mother created an account using her own identity and charged for bikini photos of her 12-year-old, getting around the site’s age requirement. The same child had previously belonged to yet another platform, BrandArmy, based on a falsified birth certificate.

Lastly, Seara Adair, an anti-exploitation activist, attempted to rescue Jacky Dejo whom Adair, naively, surmised was being “manipulated”. Jacky Dejo, who “believed that she was not a victim”, responded by telling her followers to “spam this bitch”. Valentino-DeVries and Keller:

Jacky wrote: “Don’t forget to spam this bitch who with her friends has been trying to spoil the fun for you! Going to be so much fun to destroy her and her psycho social justice warrior friends.”

Ms. Adair said, “I can’t imagine what level she’s been manipulated to to feel like this is who she has to be.”

Influencer Hallie Batchelder: (Teen) Anal Sex and Venmo Sugar Daddies

Hallie Batchelder is a New York City-based influencer slash content creator who was recently signed to Alex Cooper’s The Unwell Network. Batchelder was on Cooper’s Call Her Daddy “The Hamptons Confessional” podcast (Aug 28, 2024) Hallie she shared, after having “about seven drinks”, that she recently had anal sex - on the first and apparently last date, that she dabbled with sugar daddies, and she was caught having (teen) anal sex in Aruba - when she was 15. 

“Hi, my name is Hallie Batchelder. I'm about seven drinks in right now, and guys, I'm feeling fucking fuzzy. I'm feeling warm and I'm feeling curious. I'm not gonna lie. Okay, I'm from Boston, Massachusetts, but I live in New York right now. My current relationship status is single. So single. Kind of sad. Honestly, the fall is gonna be really lonely, whatever.” 

“Okay, my confession is, last week, I went on a first date, and honestly, we had oysters as the appetizer. So I'm gonna, like, blame the oysters, because it's like an aphrodisiac. He fucked me in the ass, I'm not gonna lie, and I liked it. I hope they put this in.” 

Next Hallie, who is reportedly now in her late twenties, shared that when she was a college girl, she had sex on the same day with two different neighbors. Why? Because, per Hallie, she can’t turn down an offer for sex.

“Well, have I ever fucked multiple people in one night. There's so many answers to this question. Yes is the immediate answer. I mean, like, are we talking about threesome? Production? Wait, in college, there was one night, so I was on like, the basement floor of my building. That's where I lived. I used to, like, fuck this guy that lives in the basement, but I also fucked this guy lived on the third floor. It's like they were friends in the same frat. They found out about each other. I'm just a girl guys, I don't know, like, I don't know what to do. Like, like, they were both hot. Like, what like, am I gonna say? No, I don't know how to say, No, I'm working on it.”

In almost every age-gap memoir there are contradictions. And Hallie’s (verbal) memoir is no different. For example, Hallie began by stating that she was in a relationship with a man whom was “probably 13 years older”, and whom “used to spend, like, a daddy”. But then she said that since she came from money, she didn’t need money from a sugar daddy.

“Have I ever dabbled with the sugar daddy? I don't know if he was daddy's status. He was like, I mean, he was like, probably 13 years older than me, but he used to spend, like, a daddy.”

“Honestly, I don't need men for their money. Like, I come from money, so like, it like, doesn't bother me. So, like, when guys, like, think I need them for their fucking bag. I'm like, get be fucking frail for a second. I don't need your fucking pockets.”

Hallie went on to elaborate on the man, by relating that he was 36 and that she was turned on by his one-thousand-dollar tips. 

“He was probably 36. I was 23, which to me, was a daddy, but he used to go out to a restaurant. We'd get drinks. Say I was, like, two margaritas. He would always be like, “Should I tip a thou? Should I tip a thou?” And I be like, ‘Yes, tip a thou, and fuck me sideways.’”

Despite the fact that Hallie comes from money, she called her sugar daddy for three weeks to ask him to pay for her breast implants. 

“Okay, I have a funny story, actually, about the sugar daddy. So he was in London one night, and he FaceTimed me and he ghosted me for like, three weeks. So he finally picked up the phone. And I was like, “Okay, hi. I'm thinking about getting my boobs done. And he was like, ‘I'll pay for them, whatever. I'll Venmo you.’”

Apparently, Hallie’s sugar daddy’s best friend was Hallie’s sugar daddy as well. And both of them felt like they owned Hallie's tits. (I wonder what could have given them that impression?)

So him and his best friend, Venmoed for my tits. They, like, both think they own my tits. 

Interestingly, in the end, Hallie’s (wealthy) parents paid for her breast implants, and she “pocketed the money” from her sugar daddies.

“Little did they know my dad and my mom, if you pass your real estate licensing exam, like, I had no job at this point. So, like, if you pass your real estate license [...] we'll pay for that surgery. [I] [p]assed in two weeks, and then I pocketed the money that that guy gave me, and then had [an] amazing rack after that.”

And speaking of Hallie’s parents, Hallie shared that when she was a nymphet, and having anal sex on a pull out bed in Aruba, her mother stepped into the room. 

“Wait, when I was 15, my mom walked in. I mean, getting fucked in the ass on a pull out bed in Aruba.” 

Hallie’s Call Her Daddy episode has raised a (rhetorical) question: Why do influencers slash content creators like Hallie, Talia Lichstein, and Brianna Chickenfry share their (teen) sex stories? Is it for likes? For followers? For clout?  For money? All of the above?