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“[...] I do know somebody very, very close to this case who is in a position to know virtually everything [...] And this person has told me from the start, years and years ago, that Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was not a pedophile [...] that he was into the barely legal type, like he liked 15-year-old girls [...] he wasn't into like eight-year-olds, but he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby, and that is what I believed, and that was what I reliably was told for many years.”
The Netflix documentary, Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich (e01), confirmed Megyn’s source. In the documentary, Haley Robson, who some call The Teen Ghislaine Maxwell, shared that when she was 16, she agreed to recruit teen masseuses for Epstein, for which she agreed to be paid $200 per massage. Over an, approximately, one-year period, Haley recruited almost 30 of her schoolmates from Royal Palm Beach Community High School for Epstein. Haley confessed, "I probably recruited maybe 24 [high school] girls."
Relatedly, per the award-winning documentary, Are All Men Pedophiles? (2013), which premiered at the Queens World Film Festival in New York City in 2012 and is streaming on Netflix, there’s a major difference between the popular definition of pedophilia and the technical\professional definition. The public’s definition of a pedophile is a man, over the age of 18, who is sexually attracted to girls under the age of 18; however, the technical\professional definition of pedophilia is:
- A sexual preference for pre-pubertal or early pubertal children (i.e., between the ages of 8 and 13)
- For six months or more, the individual has acted on those urges or suffers from distress as a result of having the urges
- The individual must be at least 16-years-old and at least five years older than the subject of desire
Thus, technically Megyn is correct because, Epstein would more accurately be described as an ephebophile, which is a man who is attracted to pubescent later adolescents, generally, between the ages 15 and 18.
It turns out that Jane’s post appears to be clickbait, because she did not defend or even partially defend Megyn’s statements. For example, Jane wrote:
Megyn Kelly’s stupid-ass statement that a 15-year-old is not the same as an 8-year-old when it comes to pedophilia got the backlash it deserved [...]
Being 15 is one of the most confusing times in life. For girls especially. Regarding sex, especially. Preying on them versus younger kids is not necessarily a lesser crime or a greater crime. But it’s a crime [...]
However, Jane, who is the founding editor of Sassy (1988-1996), a teen magazine, where she edited revealing cover stories such as “Topless Dancers: Tell You Why They Do It”, did share that she learned from editing Sassy that 15-year-old girls are not “little kids”, they are “wiser and more thoughtful than they were getting credit for”, and they want to be seen as having “maturity and depth and complexity”. In addition, Jane related that 15-year-old girls have “biological sexual urges” and “sexual desires of their own”. Jane wrote:
Fifteen-year-old girls are also, not coincidentally, the exact demographic I studied the most when I started Sassy magazine [...] I put a lot of effort into understanding and then conveying how teenagers were not the little kids that parents and teachers and other magazines at the time treated them like they were. They were wiser and more thoughtful than they were getting credit for [...] They could care about their zits and global politics at the same time. They wanted to be seen as having the maturity and depth and complexity that they knew they had inside.
Teenage girls also had sexual desires of their own. They knew that while the press suggested it was strictly boys who wanted sex and girls’ job to prevent them from getting it – or to give it away in exchange for something else valuable like popularity - that wasn’t the way they felt. They/we were also figuring out what and who those biological sexual urges would attach themselves to.
In a bit of a non-sequitur, Jane shared that 13-year-old Christy lost her virginity to members of the Hells Angels. In the back of a van. On a school night. During an outdoor party. Jane didn’t attend the fête en plein air, but Christy and some of the other partygoers shared the news with Jane at school the next day. Jane’s reaction, at the time, was envy, and she thought, “Lucky!” Jane wrote:
When I was 13 years old, my same-age friend Christy (I changed her name) went to a party [...] A bunch of teenagers in a rural area of Durham, North Carolina would meet up in a field somewhere [...] to drink and blast music and sometimes smoke what we called pot. I didn’t get to go to that specific night’s party [...]
But the next day at school, Christy and some of the other attendees told us how she had lost her virginity that night to a group of Hells Angels guys in the back of a van there. None of us called it rape, and that's not how we thought of it until years and years later. My inner and outer dialogue around it was “Damn, Christy got to lose her virginity before I did! Lucky! Get with it, Jane!”
Jane elaborated that since she and her friends refused to tell any parents, teachers, doctors, counselors, or “any authority figures at all” about Christy and the Hells’ Angels, the schoolgirls “ruled” that Christy losing her virginity to a group of bikers “was a triumphant moment, something to be proud of if you were Christy or envious of as Christy’s close friends.” However, Jane wrote that not sharing the news of Christy’s age-gap encounter with an authority figure “further” numbed the schoolgirls to the idea that we were “in fact, vulnerable”.
Lastly, three years later, Cindy and Jane resolved to lose their virginity ASAP to whomever. Cindy “won” and Jane lost, but only months later, Jane “finally caught up” with Christy and Cindy. Jane shared:
My friend Cindy (real name) and I were 16 when we determined we would lose our virginity ASAP. We wanted to get rid of those albatrosses and it didn’t matter (we thought) who we lost it to, just that we did. She won. I was 17 when I finally caught up, thank god.
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